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the translation is oh, you like fema? i like fema, too. oh, you don't like fema? no, fema's terrible. that's the translation. >> richard, he seems to be talking about getting money directly to first responders. that would be a sudden interest on mitt romney's part in getting federal money for firefighters and for local police officers, the kind of thing that president obama has done. >> he's describing the status quo. but he's also lost his moral -- deep, deep moral concerns about the nature of debt. because that extra funding that these natural disasters cost, we have to go borrow that money. let's face it. and before, when he was running for the nomination, that was a deep, deep concern to him as a question of values because debt as a question of values is more important than helping people in need. by the way, it only took him 48 hours to come up with a statement. you would hope that as president he could respond to a disaster a little quicker than that. >> and actually, i found myself in the middle of it getting lost as i was reading it. it was not exactly the
the translation is oh, you like fema? i like fema, too. oh, you don't like fema? no, fema's terrible. that's the translation. >> richard, he seems to be talking about getting money directly to first responders. that would be a sudden interest on mitt romney's part in getting federal money for firefighters and for local police officers, the kind of thing that president obama has done. >> he's describing the status quo. but he's also lost his moral -- deep, deep moral concerns about...
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this includes help from the federal government and fema. a romney campaign official also says, quote, of course he doesn't want to abolish fema. one week before election day and 800-mile wide hurricane is bearing down on 60 million people across a dozens states. the damage may be upwards of $18 billion and could produce life-threatening conditions. it's taken the lives of 65 people as it powered through the caribbean. the october surprise is here in a time of crisis voters must determine whether they want governor romney at the helm and if he there is what kind of relief will be on offer. the paradox of the mittens, obfuscation and adjusted policy continues. lawrence? >> excuse me. i'm doing a note to self about use that romney video tonight. >> please do, my friend. >> if the power is still on in this building and we're still doing -- >> please do. if that old video archive is still up an running. >> that's good. what you call on point. >> yes. >> for this particular news cycle. >> it is. john king interrupts him and says even for disaster
this includes help from the federal government and fema. a romney campaign official also says, quote, of course he doesn't want to abolish fema. one week before election day and 800-mile wide hurricane is bearing down on 60 million people across a dozens states. the damage may be upwards of $18 billion and could produce life-threatening conditions. it's taken the lives of 65 people as it powered through the caribbean. the october surprise is here in a time of crisis voters must determine...
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saying very good things about fema. how important is that agency? i bring that up in a partisan sense that in the recent debate of june of this year, governor romney -- former governor romney bashed it saying we don't need it. the states can handle these emergencies. >> these are the occasions when people say why it is that they pay taxes and why they have a government. fema was so broken and so dysfunctional back in the days of heck of a job brownie and the miserable way that we failed to protect and respond and help our citizens in new orleans to recover and under president obama, actually in a much improved fema and honestly, you know what, the republican senators say the same thing and i'm glad that they are saying it in the face of this storm. the truth is that the public safety, emergency preparedness should be nonpartisan and there are certain things that we have to be able to find a way to afford to do and protecting the public in the face of big emergencies is one of them. so it's been really inspiring to see the way that men and women have
saying very good things about fema. how important is that agency? i bring that up in a partisan sense that in the recent debate of june of this year, governor romney -- former governor romney bashed it saying we don't need it. the states can handle these emergencies. >> these are the occasions when people say why it is that they pay taxes and why they have a government. fema was so broken and so dysfunctional back in the days of heck of a job brownie and the miserable way that we failed...
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the fema director, fugate, did talk with officials. this is what happened in the state of florida when it happened in 2004. they moved polling places and got generators where it was necessary to open precincts. and by the way, the federal government reimbursed the state for those costs. that is why it came up, because state and local officials asked mr. fugate if they could get reimbursed with federal tax dollars and he said that yes, that would be the case. that would be step one, a delay, and next, it is not up to the states, it would be a case by case. >> these early reports where we're getting where we can't get pictures yet out of the area just north of new york city is of some catastrophic damage, trees still down, over the wires, arcing wires, so we're in for a long couple of days. chuck todd in the west wing, of the briefing room at the white house. chuck, thanks. we'll be right back after the break. our coverage will continue right after this. ♪ with a low national plan premium... ♪ ...and copays as low as one dollar... â™
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and we're urging everybody to register with fema. >> i never planned to leave here, i thought i would stay here. >> reporter: she didn't lose members of her family but did lose almost everything else. >> i want to go home, but there is no home, i can't go home, and it is killing me, i want to go home to my house. >> reporter: at 62 and a grandmother, she is trying to find traces of her life. >> this is the only wedding photograph of my mom. >> reporter: a moment of joy, as the water on staten island recedes amid the widespread desperation and grief. and adding to that, two children were found today, the bodies missing. we're looking at the outrage on staten island, and waiting for a response. >> ann curry, for people not familiar with the city, you can see where ann is on top of 30 rockefeller plaza, and a lot of people are re-thinking holding the new york city marathon, and we want to show you what it looks like as new york city struggles to get back on its feet, and back to work. traffic was backed up in the morning during rush hour, those without cars had to line up for public tran
and we're urging everybody to register with fema. >> i never planned to leave here, i thought i would stay here. >> reporter: she didn't lose members of her family but did lose almost everything else. >> i want to go home, but there is no home, i can't go home, and it is killing me, i want to go home to my house. >> reporter: at 62 and a grandmother, she is trying to find traces of her life. >> this is the only wedding photograph of my mom. >> reporter: a...
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they seem to be grateful for the help of fema and the president. wouldn't president romney want to do away with fema and ship those resources back to the states? do we know for sure? >> yea. absolutely. he's not opposed to that by any means. i think what the governor is talking about and we've seen cases in the past is trying to make sure that fema is the most effective agency possible in terms of affecting states and localities with disasters and it's always been a major concern in the sense that the way that it is budgeted for is not one in which it is reliable or one that states can depend on, so looking at how we fund fema and how those activities are streamlined to help states and again, you look back several storms and there's a lot of criticism to fema, so getting to an agency, allowing an agency to operate more effectively and ensuring states and localities are receiving the funds they need to help the people is what this comes down to. >> thanks for taking time for us this morning. we appreciate it. >> thanks, tom. >> we are just learning
they seem to be grateful for the help of fema and the president. wouldn't president romney want to do away with fema and ship those resources back to the states? do we know for sure? >> yea. absolutely. he's not opposed to that by any means. i think what the governor is talking about and we've seen cases in the past is trying to make sure that fema is the most effective agency possible in terms of affecting states and localities with disasters and it's always been a major concern in the...
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. >> the president has been outstanding in this, so the folks at fema have been excellent. >> reporter: later christie made it clear he isn't concerned about the storm's effect on election day. >> i don't care about election day. it doesn't matter a lick to me. let the politicians who are on the ballot worry about election day. it's not my problem, i'm not dealing with it at the moment. >> reporter: local officials in his state and others are worried. in new york's nassau county, loss of power may force votes to be counted by hand, delaying the results. new jersey's ocean county is considering relocating polling places. and west virginia may deploy generators to keep lights on. back in ohio, the campaigns have been ignoring the storm, instead bickering over this new romney ad. >> who will do more for the auto industry? not barack obama? obama took gm and chrysler into bankruptcy. and sold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. >> reporter: after independent fact checkers raised questions about the ads charges, chrysler ceo issued his own statement writing, jeep pro
. >> the president has been outstanding in this, so the folks at fema have been excellent. >> reporter: later christie made it clear he isn't concerned about the storm's effect on election day. >> i don't care about election day. it doesn't matter a lick to me. let the politicians who are on the ballot worry about election day. it's not my problem, i'm not dealing with it at the moment. >> reporter: local officials in his state and others are worried. in new york's...
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should take the lead today, romney put out a written statement reaffirming the belief, also vowing that fema would have the resources it needs. one more note, there are polls out and both campaigns say they are in the lead right now. the new polls, the president is clinging to a tight lead in the crucial battlegrounds of ohio, florida, and virginia. >> all right, peter alexander in florida tonight. of course, it was all we were talking about until this storm that stretched over darn near half the country. our political director, chief white house correspondent chuck todd traveled with the president today in the skies over new jersey. he is back on the ground in atlantic city tonight and chuck it is a fair question on how everybody is going to get to vote. you take the polling close to our place here, there is sand in the streets. i can't imagine they will be ready with power back on. there is natural gas in the air, it still feels dangerous? >> reporter: right, look, they're not going to be ready, but that doesn't mean they won't put the election on. the burden is going to be on the voter in
should take the lead today, romney put out a written statement reaffirming the belief, also vowing that fema would have the resources it needs. one more note, there are polls out and both campaigns say they are in the lead right now. the new polls, the president is clinging to a tight lead in the crucial battlegrounds of ohio, florida, and virginia. >> all right, peter alexander in florida tonight. of course, it was all we were talking about until this storm that stretched over darn near...
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you know, we're starting to do the assessments for fema now in the various towns. i mean obviously they're concerned about health and safety first but starting to put together the assessments and getting their engineers and their officials to start, you know, taking photographs and that type of thing so that they can submit damage assessments to fema. but i mean i have to say, everything i've seen so far, both at the federal, state, local level has been very good in terms of emergency management. >> well, thank you so much, congressman frank pallone from new jersey for taking time to talk to us. our best to you and your constituents and everyone in new jersey. >> you too. thank you and keep safe. >> hurricane sandy has blown up all talk of campaign plans for this final week before the elections creating challenges for both sides. joining me for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor and managing editor of post politics.com and mark halperin, senior political analyst for "time" and msnbc. first of all, the president has been on a conference call with govern
you know, we're starting to do the assessments for fema now in the various towns. i mean obviously they're concerned about health and safety first but starting to put together the assessments and getting their engineers and their officials to start, you know, taking photographs and that type of thing so that they can submit damage assessments to fema. but i mean i have to say, everything i've seen so far, both at the federal, state, local level has been very good in terms of emergency...
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he will be responsible and have to take sfont for fema and all the work they do. i think the biggest advantage, though, is these are times, you know, people are skeptical of government. people are always talking about cutting the size of government and spending, but these are times that people understand the real value of government, the federal government in coordinating and funding these efforts. the republicans have a problem here because they argue constantly. mitt romney said we should privatize fema or at least get rid of it and put it back to the states. that's a terrible argument to be defending this week. >> that was something brought up during the primary debates. joe, the former president is going to campaign for president obama later today in youngstown, ohio. the latest cnnle poll gives the president a four-point lead over governor romney. the president is struggling with white voters. 41% among white men. let me play what senator jim webb said to chuck todd on this issue. take a listen. >> how in the name of the lord can the democratic party, the par
he will be responsible and have to take sfont for fema and all the work they do. i think the biggest advantage, though, is these are times, you know, people are skeptical of government. people are always talking about cutting the size of government and spending, but these are times that people understand the real value of government, the federal government in coordinating and funding these efforts. the republicans have a problem here because they argue constantly. mitt romney said we should...
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he spent sunday afternoon at fema headquarters in washington. >> this is a serious and big storm. and my first message is to all the people across the eastern seaboard, mid-atlantic going north that you need to take this very seriously. >> governor romney canceled his weekend events in virginia. instead he spent sunday with running mate, paul ryan, on a bus tour through ohio. >> i know that right now some people in the country are a little nervous about a storm about to hit the coast. and our thoughts and prayers are with the people who will find themselves in harm's way. >> even before today's changes, the storm had already altered the campaign travel calendar, if you will. vice president biden cut short a new hampshire campaign swing. and instead diverted to ohio. >> the last thing the president and i want to do is let this campaign get in the way of anything. the most important thing is people's safety and people's health and property being saved here. >> the tuesday schedule is also in jeopardy. romney canceled a stop in new hampshire. the president canceled one in colorado. t
he spent sunday afternoon at fema headquarters in washington. >> this is a serious and big storm. and my first message is to all the people across the eastern seaboard, mid-atlantic going north that you need to take this very seriously. >> governor romney canceled his weekend events in virginia. instead he spent sunday with running mate, paul ryan, on a bus tour through ohio. >> i know that right now some people in the country are a little nervous about a storm about to hit...
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now fema is moving resources into the area, and the mid-atlantic region. for those of you asking if this is still hurricane season, it doesn't end until november 30th. brian? >> it is hard to watch all of that, having spent time there, ann thompson in new jersey, preparing for a rough weekend, thank you, our coverage of the storm, of course, continues through the weekend. if you're concerned about where you live, on our website there is a hurricane tracker allowing you to plug in your own zip code at nbcnightly.com. >> now we switch to the campaign coverage, 11 days to go. >>> and on top of everything else, the frantic pace as they try to finish, now they really do have to worry about the storm, heading for some of the most valuable political real estate there. peter alexander has more. from canton, ohio, where governor romney is, peter, good evening. >> reporter: brian, good evening to you as hurricane sandy takes aim on the east coast, forecasters are not the only ones on alert, the campaign strategists are, as well. with crews defending against potentia
now fema is moving resources into the area, and the mid-atlantic region. for those of you asking if this is still hurricane season, it doesn't end until november 30th. brian? >> it is hard to watch all of that, having spent time there, ann thompson in new jersey, preparing for a rough weekend, thank you, our coverage of the storm, of course, continues through the weekend. if you're concerned about where you live, on our website there is a hurricane tracker allowing you to plug in your own...
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i agree with you. >> fema, we need you. >> yeah. >> because he employed fema. >> used fema, worked well with fema. >> fema, dot, dot, dot, you betcha. >> anything we've learned over the past eight to ten years, we need to boost it, strengthen it. >> isn't that another case of primary speak there, though? >> yes, that's exactly what it is which is, you know, this is mitt romney, one of his problems, there's a sense that does he say what the room wants to hear? >> yeah. >> right, and that felt like a case where he was trying to look like, look, i'm not -- you may not believe i'm a conservative, remember the moment in the campaign we were at at that time. by golly, you're going to believe i am a fiscal conservative like nobody's business, nobody's going to be able to outflank me on that. and that is one of those cases you said it that way. i just can't imagine any president that would somehow start cutting back on fema. when fema is a lifeline. i heard christie this morning, you're going to hear him again. i don't think he's going to be for cutting out of fema, and i don't know if chris ch
i agree with you. >> fema, we need you. >> yeah. >> because he employed fema. >> used fema, worked well with fema. >> fema, dot, dot, dot, you betcha. >> anything we've learned over the past eight to ten years, we need to boost it, strengthen it. >> isn't that another case of primary speak there, though? >> yes, that's exactly what it is which is, you know, this is mitt romney, one of his problems, there's a sense that does he say what the room...
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everybody is reminded romney wanted to outsource fema to the states. what a dumb move to have taken given what's happened here. >>> mitt romney's halloween mask. mr. bipartisan. do you believe it? trick-or-treat. i don't think it's going to work with anybody. anyway. or this is just another etch-a-sketch moment? >>> and joe walsh, remember that guy? he may be the one republican member of congress most democrats want to see defeated. >>> let me finish with the >>> let me finish with the metamorphosis of mitt romney from, well, caterpillar to butterfly? that is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> we showed you the averages of the polls from battleground states. let's take a look at some individual numbers. in wisconsin our new nbc news/"wall street journal"/maris poll shows obama with a three-point lead. in new hampshire our poll has the president two points ahead. in iowa our poll has president obama up by six, 50%, 44%. in colorado a new cnn/opinion research poll shows the president leading by two. finally to michigan where a new epic poll shows th
everybody is reminded romney wanted to outsource fema to the states. what a dumb move to have taken given what's happened here. >>> mitt romney's halloween mask. mr. bipartisan. do you believe it? trick-or-treat. i don't think it's going to work with anybody. anyway. or this is just another etch-a-sketch moment? >>> and joe walsh, remember that guy? he may be the one republican member of congress most democrats want to see defeated. >>> let me finish with the...
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romney wants to give fema responsibilities to 50 states. last it years they have forced a 43% reduction in fema grants. paul ryan others have tried to refuse budget requests when disasters are more expensive or other programs be cut to pay for them. the ryan budget which mr. romney praised as an excellent piece of work with result in severe cutbacks to the agency as would republican i understand city gated sequester that could relief 8.2%. mr. romney believe that financially stressed states would do a better job than properly functioning federal agency? that is "new york times" editorial. a call from louisville, ohio. rex. independent caller. caller: i'm looking at the question and somebody will have to come to the realization that we are dealing with education regurgitation. because you said trust in government through natural disaster. could we trust so-called government in getting in to illegal unfunded wars or trust the government dealing with hiding fascist trade agreements or $4 for a gallon of gas? so, no, we can't trust the governme
romney wants to give fema responsibilities to 50 states. last it years they have forced a 43% reduction in fema grants. paul ryan others have tried to refuse budget requests when disasters are more expensive or other programs be cut to pay for them. the ryan budget which mr. romney praised as an excellent piece of work with result in severe cutbacks to the agency as would republican i understand city gated sequester that could relief 8.2%. mr. romney believe that financially stressed states...
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fema has been coordinating the major disaster relief the. there have been phone calls every day for the new york delegation about how they are responding. there is a great need for food and water in lower manhattan. when you go below 37 street, it is a total blackout. there are no traffic lights or phones. no way to communicate. when you are down there you can not send an e-mail or make a phone call. people are helping each other and directing traffic. the small businesses are afraid that some of them will go out of business because they operate on a fragile business line. their produce, they're derry, their stock in restaurants and small stores, it is just going bad. the food is going bad. they are losing their total revenue. we have been talking about coming in and setting up a satellite office for bridge loans and other ways to help these small businesses. fema and others are coming in. the national guard is coming in to some areas. particularly seniors in these high rises where there are elevators. so, all in all, it is the wrost storm i
fema has been coordinating the major disaster relief the. there have been phone calls every day for the new york delegation about how they are responding. there is a great need for food and water in lower manhattan. when you go below 37 street, it is a total blackout. there are no traffic lights or phones. no way to communicate. when you are down there you can not send an e-mail or make a phone call. people are helping each other and directing traffic. the small businesses are afraid that some...
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everybody is reminded romney wanted to outsource fema to the states. what a dumb move to have taken given what's happened here. >>> mitt romney's halloween mask. mr. bipartisan. do you believe it? trick-or-treat. i don't think it's going to work with anybody. anyway. or this is just another etch-a-sketch moment. >>> and joe walsh, remember that guy? he may be the one republican member of congress most democrats want to see defeated. olympic met me finish with the metamorphosis of mitt romney from, well, caterpillar to butterfly? that is "hardball," the place for politics. c-max has a nice little trait, you see, c-max helps you load your freight, with its foot-activated lift gate. but that's not all you'll see, cause c-max also beats prius v, with better mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybrid. [ male announcer ] it's time for medicare open enrollment. are you ready? time to compare plans and see what's new. you don't have to make changes, but it's good to look. maybe you can find better coverage, save money, or both. and check out the p
everybody is reminded romney wanted to outsource fema to the states. what a dumb move to have taken given what's happened here. >>> mitt romney's halloween mask. mr. bipartisan. do you believe it? trick-or-treat. i don't think it's going to work with anybody. anyway. or this is just another etch-a-sketch moment. >>> and joe walsh, remember that guy? he may be the one republican member of congress most democrats want to see defeated. olympic met me finish with the metamorphosis...
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that romney is not interested in getting rid of fema. do you buy it? >> no, not necessarily. i mean, again, the problem with romney is we don't know which position from which time is actually his position. there have certainly been cuts in the republican congress to relief efforts. and i think this story really does remind us that the federal government has a role to play. the federal government can play a positive role in our lives. one of the reasons katrina was such a big scandal is for years, particularly under clinton, who really did a good job of reforming fema, we said, yeah, this is one of the things the federal government does well. and when states get into trouble like this, yes, they can do things for themselves, and they do a lot of stuff for themselves. but they've got to have the fed. so i think right now, he has no choice but to say, well, whatever i said before, i'm going to keep fema. >> e.j. dionne, are we going to be looking back on this campaign if romney losing saying it was the 47% tsunami, that it really was that t
that romney is not interested in getting rid of fema. do you buy it? >> no, not necessarily. i mean, again, the problem with romney is we don't know which position from which time is actually his position. there have certainly been cuts in the republican congress to relief efforts. and i think this story really does remind us that the federal government has a role to play. the federal government can play a positive role in our lives. one of the reasons katrina was such a big scandal is...
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. >> governor, what should fema's role be? governor, would you eliminate fema if you were president? >> well, it's either 11 or 14 times, depending on whose count you believe. the campaign released a statement saying that romney would not abolish fema but, quote, governor romney believes that states should be in charge of emergency management in responding to storms and other natural disasters in their jurisdiction. that's from his spokesman, ryan williams. is this a problem for him, susan? >> well, i think it becomes an issue for him because of what he said in that primary debate that john king moderated where he was asked specifically about fema. he said anything that the federal government does that can be transferred to the states are better yet to the private sector. that's the right direction. so it leaves open the question of exactly what role he sees for fema. fema has been a controversial agency such as their delivery of services after katrina. however it's pretty popular when it comes in and helps and picks up the co
. >> governor, what should fema's role be? governor, would you eliminate fema if you were president? >> well, it's either 11 or 14 times, depending on whose count you believe. the campaign released a statement saying that romney would not abolish fema but, quote, governor romney believes that states should be in charge of emergency management in responding to storms and other natural disasters in their jurisdiction. that's from his spokesman, ryan williams. is this a problem for...
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and we're urging everybody to register with fema. >> i never planned to leave here. i thought i would stay here the rest of my life. >> reporter: she didn't lose members of her family, but she did lose virtually everything else. >> i want to go home, but there's no home! i can't go home! and that's killing me. it's breaking my heart. i want to go home to my house. >> reporter: at 62 and a grandmother, she is trying to find traces of her life. >> this is the only wedding photograph of my mom. >> reporter: a moment of joy as the water on staten island recedes amid widespread desperation and grief. >> incredible stories still unfolding right now. this is what bill karins is talking about yesterday after the sort of novelty of the first couple of days and everyone coming together wears off, the people who are hurting, it's raw. and it's going to be a long time for them. >> i also think, john heilemann, a lot of cases, some of these are areas were evacuation zones, there's some crying of wolf and people saying this is my home, i don't have anywhere else to go, i'm going t
and we're urging everybody to register with fema. >> i never planned to leave here. i thought i would stay here the rest of my life. >> reporter: she didn't lose members of her family, but she did lose virtually everything else. >> i want to go home, but there's no home! i can't go home! and that's killing me. it's breaking my heart. i want to go home to my house. >> reporter: at 62 and a grandmother, she is trying to find traces of her life. >> this is the only...
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a full fema membership. >> if you call 1-800-621-fema. >> cenk: that's interesting. the federal government is going to rebuild that. how do the republicans feel about that? we'll show you in just a minute. >> you see the color that's fuel oil and transmission fuel. each one toxic and hazardous material. >> cenk: one of the top climatologists in the field with us today. do you know there was a warning that this would happen in new york exactly like this? we'll share that with you, as well. at the end of the show, are some halloween outfits out of bounds. >> as ill considered party costumes go, this one sets a new standard. prince harry showed up dressed as german's world war ii africa core complete with nazi armband. >> cenk: are some halloween costumes also racist. we have differing opinions on that. and then an interesting story about how a guy broke into high house by a crazy guy. did it change my mind on gun rights. interesting show. it's go time. >> the president now coming off of air force one. >> within a week you have the president of the united states, govern
a full fema membership. >> if you call 1-800-621-fema. >> cenk: that's interesting. the federal government is going to rebuild that. how do the republicans feel about that? we'll show you in just a minute. >> you see the color that's fuel oil and transmission fuel. each one toxic and hazardous material. >> cenk: one of the top climatologists in the field with us today. do you know there was a warning that this would happen in new york exactly like this? we'll share that...
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i was on the phone with fema at 2:00 a.m. this morning to answer the questions they needed answers to get that designation, and the president has been outstanding in this, and so the folks of fema, craig fugate and his folks have been excellent >> i know you took exception with the handling of this situation by the mayor of atlantic city, lorenzo langford. you were very upset that he didn't evacuate that city or all of that city and instead offered some people shelter in some city shelters, and you said that he was a rogue mayor and said, quote, i don't have a feud with the guy, but i wish he would do his job. a little time has passed between those comments and right now, the emotional level has come down. do you still feel that way? >> listen, the fact of the matter is i feel badly for the folks in atlantic city who listened to him and sheltered in atlantic city, and i guess my -- my anger has turned to sympathy for those folks, and we're in the midst now of trying to go in and save them. daylight has come. we've got an urba
i was on the phone with fema at 2:00 a.m. this morning to answer the questions they needed answers to get that designation, and the president has been outstanding in this, and so the folks of fema, craig fugate and his folks have been excellent >> i know you took exception with the handling of this situation by the mayor of atlantic city, lorenzo langford. you were very upset that he didn't evacuate that city or all of that city and instead offered some people shelter in some city...
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the real major point here is, for instance, look at fema again, there are two tasks to fema. one is to respond after disasters. but the other they have neglected since clinton is to mitigate, to reduce the risk in the first place. and fema has been gutted from that task. and now we see the effects. >> this is stats that come from a political science journal article, disaster spending since 1988, the amount of money that the u.s. spent on disaster relief has increased 13 times while the amount of spending on disaster preparedness has been flat. >> or reduced. >> or reduced. what we have is the perverse political incentive, what happens politically if there's a politician and there's a disaster, you're on the news every day doing disaster relief and that's when all the incentives to turn on the spigots and make the money flow, i'm not saying that's a bad thing. we don't have the same incentives to prevent the disaster from happening in the first place because what's the political gain from that? >> you are more cynical than i am. >> we need to place it in context as well, let's
the real major point here is, for instance, look at fema again, there are two tasks to fema. one is to respond after disasters. but the other they have neglected since clinton is to mitigate, to reduce the risk in the first place. and fema has been gutted from that task. and now we see the effects. >> this is stats that come from a political science journal article, disaster spending since 1988, the amount of money that the u.s. spent on disaster relief has increased 13 times while the...
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the president has been outstanding in this and so have the folks at fema. the president has been all over this and deserves great credit. i have been on the phone with him yesterday personally three times. he gave me his number at the white house and told me to call him if i needed anything, and he absolutely means it. >> that's great. >> it's been very good working with the president and his administration. >> he also responded with annoyance after a fox news personality asked him an overtly political question about mitt romney. let's take a listen. >> is there any possibility that governor romney may go to new jersey to tour some of the damage with you? >> i have no idea nor am i the least bit concerned or interested. >> right. >> i've got a job to do here in new jersey. i have got 2.4 million people out of power. i have got devastation on the shore. i have got floods in the northern part of my state. if you think right now i give a damn about presidential politics, then you don't know me. >> let's talk about that, chuck, and i do believe it. you know, i
the president has been outstanding in this and so have the folks at fema. the president has been all over this and deserves great credit. i have been on the phone with him yesterday personally three times. he gave me his number at the white house and told me to call him if i needed anything, and he absolutely means it. >> that's great. >> it's been very good working with the president and his administration. >> he also responded with annoyance after a fox news personality...